Burgess Hill 1-6 Dartford

[Dan BHTFC]

Score says it all really.

The only plus was the good sing song with the Dartford lot, should be a good atmosphere at Princes Park in January

[Smurf]

i dont normally vent my anger ........... however................. as a fan and a supporter i am able to vent my anger. Shit game, shit performance shit all round. At half time at least 10 + people left the game ( myself included) . If the management of BHTFC want to see people through the gate i suggest they start performing.
Dont delete this Dan as i can never have a say without being fobbed off.
Bet i pick up the Argus on Mon and there be all the excuses under the sun. Sorry , but these will not brush, although i will follow bhtfc threw thick and thin . However i will not be fobbed off from the b/shit that maybe ill get from wriiting this post. If we havnt got a good side ............ which we all know we havnt . let us know. as i say after today there is a lot of people that will not watch BHTFC play again this season (me not being 1 of them but maybe )

[dartsfan]

Darts were awsome today in every department fully deserving this emphatic win, indeed it could and should have been 10! Crowd about 250, and a fair amount of away support, not as vocal as usual but there are still some of the regulars on their hols!

On this evidence it looks like a struggle for the Hill or were Dartford just too hot too handle?

[Dan BHTFC]

Dartford were a very well organised team whilst we looked as if we had only just met eachother. Should have been more than 6, Dartford hit the crossbar twice in the second half and thanks to a few saves from Andre we denied what would have been a very embarrasing defeat.

Roll on next Saturday in what will be the 'Victor Meldrews Army' first away game of the season.

[Smurf]

Well i think 8-)if Victor Meldrews and all that lot, do i turn up or not

[Dan BHTFC]

Hopefully today was just a blip but we need to play a lot better if we are to challenge in this league. The defence seemed to split whenever a ball was played forward by Dartford, if it wasn't for Andre it would have been double figures.

Smurf, don't worry, we're only Victor Meldrews at home games, we'll be in full voice and full of beer next week, or in your case those 2 plus bacon rolls ;D

[deeudon77]

I wish I could say something nice,I have waited until Sunday morning in case the alcohol loosened my tongue somewhat.It is difficult to know if Dartford were a good side because "The Hillians" were dreadful.Unfortunately Smurf is right that this sort of performance will not bring in more supporters.There is absolutely no excuse for letting in six goals other than having players not good enough at this level or coaching staff not up to the task.The Dartford fans were a great bunch,lets hope they are the same if they are losing although they look like they could do well in this league.
It's going to be another frustrating season and the Victor Meldrew stand is likely to gain a few more members.
Tom Edmunds,one of my tips for playing at a higher level before his year off,must have wondered what he had come back to.Foster kept a few more goals from going in but even he was flapping a few times,maybe due to the woeful defence in front of him.I wish we had a captain who led by example,someone in the Darren Newman style.I think some of our players would have had a bloody good ear bashing from him at yesterdays game.
One would like to think it can only get better,God help us if it gets worse.We,as supporters,have to get behind the team especially when things don't go quite right.............but boy it's tough being surrounded by fans from the opposition really taking the piss.Well done to Dartford for a very good performance and I would like to think our performance will be a whole lot better next time we meet.
To the Burgess Hill players you have to ask yourself if you are good enough at this level and were you really pushing yourselves to maximum effort. On this performance I think not,you let the club down,the manager and most of all the supporters.This sort of performance was totally unacceptable and a rapid improvement is needed to maintain our position in this league,or we could be looking at even smaller gates in the weeks ahead especially as the winter weather approaches.

[orue]

Well where does one start, we made a fairly ordinary Dartford side look fantastic, GK played a blinder behind a back line who, with the exception of one, who unfortunately couldn't finish the game,were totally abysmal.

Our midfield in fact the whole team has one player who can pass the ball with any degree of accuracy and vision who is persistently played out wide waiting to get the ball from a midfield who on yesterdays showing couldn't pass go on a monopoly board. The reality is he is played there because he's the only player who can use his left foot,gift or curse???

Up front we had a lone striker running his socks off looking for a decent pass. Where will it come from???

And then we see our most creative player subbed, what is going on ?. Was it just me or did we send out a team of really crap players, where was the team who played Bromley. who played well against Margate. Two to three players were absolutely and disgustingly poor yesterday and yet all of them stayed on the pitch for 90 min's. Would it not have been worth trying something slightly different after 3/4 goals,could we not play two holding m/f players with one with a bit of quality pushing on to support the poor lone striker,should we not be playing players on form and not big time charlies (in their minds only) who are just not good enough,or players quite obviously out of position.

Yesterday was a total embarassment on a really important first game of the season.Surely it is the game to win to get heads up and confidence flowing. I really don't know where BHTFC can go from here,we looked a poor side with not enough quality who on the day had no answer to a well drilled and enthusiastic opposition.

A very difficult post to moderate,I could have worn out the expletive button on my keyboard if it had one. Come on folks lets have your opinions, am I being unfair?.

[orue]

Deeudon77 I read your post with great interest and you have it in a nutshell, just one point I am unsure about,you say "Tom Edmonds one of my tips to play at a higher level before his year off, must have wondered what he had come back to," what point were you making?

[refsworstenemy]

Yet again I was forced to wonder what Gary Croydon looks at while we watch BHTFC. Yet another bizarre set of tactics, delayed reactions to poor performance and bizarre substitutions. This game was the closest I have come to starting to chant "Croydon out".

Interesting to see that the problems BHTFC had at the end of last season haven't been rectified in the slightest despite numerous personel changes. A non-existent defence, slow and weak attackers all supported by a midfield that seems equally perplexed by the lack of defence and attack as the supporters were. Andre Foster for me was the only player who could come away from that match with a shread of dignity despite having 6 goals inflicted upon him by an embaressingly poor back 4.

If Steve Johnson was sacked last year purely on performance then Croydon needs to look at his own performance over the last 15 or so competative games and decide whether he really is fit to coach the 1st team.

Tom Edmonds was once a good player but got caught out by their (very talented) number 11 time after time without learning a single lesson.

I know for a fact that we have some skillful individual players on our side, and it must surely be down to bad management to have been hammered so easily by Dartford. Dartford were a great team, but I think we will find many more teams of the same or a higher standard before the end of this season.

I have been trying to convince friends to watch BHTFC, and on Saturday I had managed to get someone new along. I'm not sure he is going to want to visit again....although he did get a goal for every pound!

I sincerely hope Croydon plays people in position and reacts well to this disaster because his second reign has cast a shadow over the 10 happy years I have supported the hill.

[deeudon77]

Tom is a quality player who deserves to be playing either at a higher level or at least with players who have the same drive he has.When he last played for us we at least had a half decent side and I rather suspect he would have noticed what a shambles we were yesterday compared to the last time he played.
Of course when the money runs out the "stars" move on and we are then left with either the youth or " the rest".Harry Redknap and Sam Allardyce have a similar problem but they get by....Maybe they are good managers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sponge]

Yet again done by a team with power and pace. Won't GC ever learn ? The players he gets in have very little of either not helped by players out of position. Watts should be playing in defence,Edmonds should be playing central defence. He brought Jarvis in because we were light on strikers and plays him on the left wing. Maybe GC should consider stepping down. There must be others around who could get a team to perform even on our limited budget. After 9 years the time has come to pick and choose my games and persue other interests that have been ignored due to the time and considerable money spent supporting the team.home and away.

[refsworstenemy]

I agree with Sponge here. Tom Edmonds is not a full back. Whilst it wasn't his fault that he was played out of position, he was absolutely diabolical in the right back position and that isn't just down to the rest of the team being a shambles. I hope if he does get played as a centre back again this season he will perform as well as he used to. He never used to perform badly just because of the rest of the team were poor, in many games he was the only player on the pitch to have played well.

GC needs to admit that he is not a football manager. I rather suspect we couldn't afford to attract anyone else to manage BHTFC though.

I hope that we don't lose anyone's support because of his poor management though. He won't be around forever, but hopefully BHTFC will be (although possibly in a lower league!)

[orue]

Very interesting thread developing here with people suggesting this that and the other.

There is no denying that yesterdays team and performance was poor, one centre half who unfortunately couldn't finish the game, the other dire, a pair of fullbacks one of who will play pro football (go to nepotism,Oxford dictionary) and one who loooked like he had never played football before ,quality!!!!!!!!!, Lt Ironside could have played on their left wing, and, even more worrying suggestions that he should play at CH.On yesterdays showing had that happened we WOULD have lost 10-1.


Our centre midfield whilst it has bite isn't creative enough and our passing from there yesterday was very poor, either overhit or simply gifted back to the opposition, the ball rarely goes out to the wings and when it does it's usually a 50/50 ball, seldom quality balls fed in between or behind defenders. We had a right winger who is strong,works hard but quite honestly isn't a natural winger. His strength appears to be through the middle.We seriously need a holding presence in the midfield to link up between the defence and midfield and an attacking midfielder to link up with forward/s . Our one out and out striker who I thought worked his socks off is not supported.

I'm am not going to get involved in the management issue,but be assured the management team wouldn't have liked what they saw yesterday,more important is what they do about it. Yesterday was a huge disappointment, a very poor start to the season but there's a long way to go yet and I for one am trying very hard to be positive.

[Dan BHTFC]

I agree with you Orue, the management isn't to blame, it's the players. They looked as if they didn't want to be out there at times but we did pull off a couple of good moves. It's only the first game, the players need to gel, give it a few more games and I'm sure we'll start playing some good football for 90 minutes and we'll show everyone we shouldn't be bottom of the table, it's better to be bottom at the start rather than at the end, keep the faith and the team will follow