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Post by sponge on Nov 20, 2006 11:39:03 GMT
Croydon states that knocking of players on forum is having a detrimental affect on the youngsters.
well i haven't seen any on this forum for a long time so i don't know where he gets this from. He seems to pluck these statements out of thin air just for something to say. He also claims that he gets criticised - is it surprising ? Maybe because of some tough games coming up he's not very confident about our chances. He's like an over protective mother and should realise that most of the team are over 18 and classed as adults.
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Post by refsworstenemy on Nov 21, 2006 12:59:23 GMT
From what I understand this forum was taken away from the official website due to Croydon not being able to handle criticism. It therefore makes me wonder why he reads it. Surely he isn't naive enough to think this forum is going to give him nothing but praise? I think he would have to be very arrogant to expect to find everyone on this forum saying he has done a perfect job this year and has a perfect squad. We are doing quite well in the league, especially after a poor start and I think when we do play well, and when the management is good, we praise those things on here. But any manager that doesn't have their head completely in the clouds will realise that they will get criticised from time to time, sometimes deservedly so, and sometimes because supporters may not understand their tactiscs and decisions as well as they should.
I think this season the comments about the players have been very positive on the whole. There have been a few negative comments about Croydon, mainly after the opening hammering, but a decent manager would be thick skinned enough not to be bothered by such comments, and to even taken them on board. If Croydon hasn't just been misquoted in this instance then I think it is extremely unprofessional of him to speak like this to a local newspaper.
I realise the papers like to stir things up so this may not have been said at all, but I am worried that every time the paper prints stories like this it only serves to put people off watching the football club and I'd be amazed if Croydon wanted to turn away all of the regular supporters and send his team out in front of an empty stand every week.
If Croydon reads this I will get my coat now!
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Post by deeudon77 on Nov 21, 2006 16:59:14 GMT
Two views that are completely in agreement and totally correct.I have realised this season more than ever that not just the manager but a few members of the heirarchy (or those that think they are part of that particular regime) are incapable of constructive criticism and do not even listen to those members who may well have some good ideas to help the club to survive.
Burgess Hill Town F C is a long way down the football pyramid and quite frankly is not big enough to be run by one person.A return to a proper committee with full access to club accounts and the general running of the club is needed if many supporters, including myself,wish to watch further matches instead of enjoying other interests with less negative reaction.
Players of all ages react to criticism or indeed praise in different ways as I learnt over many years of playing football. If a particular player took to heart any criticism a good manager knew how to deal with it and one would hope that the particular player in question would go out and prove the critics wrong.Sad to say if that was not the case then as in all walks of life realisation that you "couldn't cut the mustard" had to kick in.
Every supporter in every team in the country will probably have some different views on certain players and how they play, and they as supporters have every right to express their views provided it is done in the correct way.Sure at this level with easy access to alcohol there are some things said perhaps after a game when senses maybe a little distorted that could be construed in the wrong way.To my knowledge pretty much all of the views on this forum have been posted with clear heads and honest thoughts and a true reflection on how the team performed,good or bad.May that continue or we could be facing a minor state of dictatorship.
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Post by brightonmike on Nov 22, 2006 8:22:13 GMT
Didn't we just go away last night and take another point off the league leaders ?
Didn't we draw at home with them a few weeks ago ?
At that home game there was a bizarre/terrible exhibition by the referee : The Argus recently ran (an unsigned) article about how the BHTFC crowd gave overmuch criticism to the officials - that's the press for you !
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Post by waspexile on Nov 22, 2006 11:35:10 GMT
I agree with most of whats been said here, but if no-one pops up to offer ANY Club at this level financial or professional help in a large way then it will be run by the person/persons providing the dosh in a manner they think suitable.
You may not think its good or right (and Man Utd or Hearts are 2 obvious examples here) but thats life.
This forum always seems to be a pretty good cross-section of views and tells it as it appears from the stands at that moment. Maybe we need a "mission statement"! so we dont get misquoted by certain people or publications........
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Post by refsworstenemy on Nov 22, 2006 12:22:24 GMT
I agree with you Waspexile. Croydon, as the man at the top, does indeed have every right to express himself how he likes to who he likes. However, I am confused as to why he would want to alienate supporters or how that could possibly be in his best interest.
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Post by waspexile on Nov 23, 2006 11:49:43 GMT
I agree with you Waspexile. Croydon, as the man at the top, does indeed have every right to express himself how he likes to who he likes. However, I am confused as to why he would want to alienate supporters or how that could possibly be in his best interest. Yes, thats the daft bit. Might just have been letting off steam, but it just makes the situation more heated for all. |
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Post by Smurf on Nov 23, 2006 20:37:14 GMT
I agree with you Waspexile. Croydon, as the man at the top, does indeed have every right to express himself how he likes to who he likes. However, I am confused as to why he would want to alienate supporters or how that could possibly be in his best interest. Yes, thats the daft bit. Might just have been letting off steam, but it just makes the situation more heated for all. Is it a wonder why now that a few people including myself do not go to games. I for 1 will chat to people including Mr GC, how ever what was said in the Sports Argus was unfound and also un called for . Mr GC needs to look at this forum in detail before he spouts off in the local paper. These things ive said ... with other things i would say to GC s face, where as a lot of other people will not. Is Mr GC trying to stir up the the fans that use this forum or what ? This is the only place where fans can vent there frustration about the games. And from what ive seen nothing un toward has been directed at the players that was not called for . GC you know it makes sense this is the fans forum not the clubs and if you read it and dont like it, well im sorry, but this forums for the fans , not u to go to the papers and winge. If u havnt i do apoloigise but if you have GC you Know ill always buy you a beer . Oh and by the way you know who i am so heres a early beer for u  |
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Post by deeudon77 on Nov 23, 2006 21:00:57 GMT
Freedom of speech has until recent political events been an unreserved right in this country by anyone. As Gary Croydon has apparently told some players,quote/unquote, if you don't like it there's the door.If you give it out you've got to be able to take it.In any event having only lost two games this season I would have been quite happy as a manager knowing that promotion is not likely or indeed a financially sensible option.
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