daveb
Part-Time Supporter
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Post by daveb on Apr 4, 2007 10:10:52 GMT
Sittingbourne 1-4 Burgess Hill Town
(Fogden, Jarvis, Joyce, Skinner)
To all those that are continuing to post I was really pleased to see the Barmy Army out in force against Met Police. I think the players responded with a sold performance against Met Police who are one of the leagues toughest sides. As for comments made on the subject 2-1 Croydon Athletic about away performances it seems ludicrous to me that having won 3 of our last four games away from home these are obviously people not attending these games.
As for Tuesday’s games at Sittingbourne it was a real pleasure to be there at such a inhospitable place, the players warmed us all up with a splendid attacking performance, 3-0 half time. It was only a matter of making sure of the victory in the second half and for me well worth the effort to travel being aware that some of the players had travelled three hours each way I think they deserve so much more support that they are getting. On Saturday we had an average age of 19.3 on the pitch, it speaks volumes for our future and I don’t understand some of the comments on this forum which seem to be designed only to undermine the Clubs progress. Are your true supporters?
Comments are fine, everybody has an opinion, but people only seem to post negative comments in a vain effort to make out that the Club is in some way not performing to any standard and not worth watching. I for one enjoy the games and seeing the development of our young players.
Not often i think like this in defeat, the lads created so many chances , that we should have scored at least two more ourselves , still very entertaing.
Well played lads, i think its chin up , more of the same , then we should be able to make ammends Saturday .
up the Brickies.
(taken from the Sittingbourne forum)
A true supporter?
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Post by sponge on Apr 4, 2007 13:27:54 GMT
Dave, the comments about our away form were based on the whole season so far and not just on the last 4 games. Yes the team has done magnificently lately and well done to them.
Martin has probably been to most away games this season and has commented on how he's seen it. My comments were based on the games i saw up to christmas.
As for the dig about true supporters,well,we have no obligation to come and watch matches, we can spend the hard earned as we choose. Remember,we don't get complimentary tickets to attend games nor are we supplied with refreshments. Over the years we have spent a fortune watching the team home and away and it seemed it was expected of us to do so. The fact was at the time the team were not performing and we weren't enjoying it any more,and this seemed to be the case for several people.
As for undermining the clubs efforts with negative posts well,many of these posters are quick to praise the team after a good performance.
If things are happening behind the scenes then let people know. We have a website that gives out absolutely no news at all,so help yourselves by keeping people informed. - It's not a secret society is it ?
But most of all,don't try and make people feel guilty for not attending games, we have absolutely no obligation to do so.
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Post by deeudon77 on Apr 4, 2007 16:53:42 GMT
My sentiments entirely Sponge and to Dave I ask the question.What is your definition of a true supporter? As Sponge commented most people have to part with their money but a good number play the "freebie" hand, I've seen it all too often although this is not limited to just BHTFC.
Please refer to my post on the Croydon thread regarding outlay for a "true" supporter.
I have spoken to a good many people of late as to why they do not attend matches and there were a varying amount of reasons but it was obvious that a drop in standard of the football in general and an unwillingness to inform the paying public of the clubs way forward and most importantly where their hard earned cash was going to.
A breakdown of the clubs expenditure and income for all to see would go a long way to appeasing supporters suspicion of the way the club is run.
This information would also help negate some of the more adverse comments on this open forum and who knows it may even improve the "true" support in time for next season.
Sadly I have just seen an enormous pig just fly by.
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Post by brightonmike on Apr 5, 2007 22:10:17 GMT
"... and most importantly where their hard earned cash was going to." I can reveal some inner secrets from BHTFC: whilst club income usually goes to running the club .... the money you spent was actually put aside and spent on ......
a. that nice tree of lollipops behind the bar.
b. those wooden forks for harpooning yer chips.
c. a few more cones.
d. Gricey's haircuts.
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Post by deeudon77 on Apr 6, 2007 6:59:34 GMT
Thankyou Brightonmike, It's refreshing to know the club management are using their resources in a manner which most people expect of them.
I expect the grass will be painted next.
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Post by sponge on Apr 6, 2007 9:02:22 GMT
Yes i appreciate the limited income goes to running the club. As for supporting the team away,i don't think Dave understands the expense.I expect his trip to Sittingbourne cost him very little but for us it would have been £40 and that would have been a 'dry' evening.
Our trip to Ashford season before last cost £100 and that was with 2 of us getting free travel on the train.
What amazes me is that on occasions,coaches have been taken to games with many empty seats,carrying just the players and a few club officials. If you want the team to be supported away then surely it would have been better to have let supporters travel on the coach with no charge. It seems an us and them attitude has developed over the past few years with support being taken for granted.
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Post by deeudon77 on Apr 6, 2007 10:37:04 GMT
Again I agree with Sponge although I would not be averse to paying a token amount for coach travel on a players coach. Obviously a coach laid on specifically for fans has to cover the cost of hiring the coach as has been the case on cup runs etc., Mind you, have not spent much on that for the last couple of seasons.
Going back to brightonmikes "comments" regarding expenditure it would be nice to know just as a basic, the weekly/monthly income and outgoing.
If we are getting £1000 a week and spending £1500 we are in trouble.
If we are getting £1000 a week and spending £999 then fine,no worries.
Why are the management team so coy about everything,if we are paying the players too much or wasting our money in other areas then something needs to be done about it.
If we are making a small profit or even breaking even then fine let us all know.
There are people out there who would like to help in many ways if only they knew the clubs position financially and the ambitions of the club in general.
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Post by Smurf on Apr 6, 2007 11:21:33 GMT
 OH HAPPY DAYS 
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Post by refsworstenemy on Apr 6, 2007 13:03:08 GMT
I'm bored of having to worry about the intricate workings of the football club before I am allowed an opinion. From now on I am going to be annoyed at spending £7 to see the team under perform and I am going to be overjoyed at paying £7 to see them win. That's as complex as it needs to be for a supporter.
If this ethic only qualifies me for an opinion on a "supporters message board" but does not give me the right to voice my opinion at a higher level, I'm fine with that. But if I am not even allowed to voice my opinion on a "supporters message board" then this is a total farce and a waste of space.
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Post by deeudon77 on Apr 6, 2007 13:33:34 GMT
Well RWE, with 194 posts to date your your opinions have not been censured and rightly so.Any member using this and probably most other forums in a derogatory way would expect to be "struck off". Your comments and opinions are more than welcome by all interested parties.
Please remember we are all individuals who have different views and while some adopt a pretty laid back attitude as to how things are done others may well want to know a little more.
What a wonderful thing Democratic Dictatorship is.
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Post by Smurf on Apr 6, 2007 17:01:46 GMT
As the site is run by the supporters and not the club, i cant see any post being deleted. This is where you can have your say and let off a bit of steam if you want. However, seems that certain indiviuals dont seem to like what the fans have to say  .I could understand if the main site had a forum, but alas it hasnt, so where else better to talk about things |
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Post by sponge on Apr 6, 2007 17:14:12 GMT
Well done Smurf - 300 posts.
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Post by sponge on Apr 6, 2007 17:17:10 GMT
And i'm now in the first team !
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Post by refsworstenemy on Apr 6, 2007 21:51:33 GMT
I wasn't suggesting my views would be removed or that I wasn't able to voice them. I just hate the implication that a person isn't a true supporter because they didn't enjoy a drubbing and vocalised their distaste. Recently my comments have been quite positive and for the most part people have agreed with me. But I have seen others persecuted or branded a non-"true supporter" because they have voiced theirs. I'd hate to come under the same fire.
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Post by sponge on Apr 8, 2007 18:29:39 GMT
I wasn't suggesting my views would be removed or that I wasn't able to voice them. I just hate the implication that a person isn't a true supporter because they didn't enjoy a drubbing and vocalised their distaste. Recently my comments have been quite positive and for the most part people have agreed with me. But I have seen others persecuted or branded a non-"true supporter" because they have voiced theirs. I'd hate to come under the same fire. Amen to that. |
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